We are looking to buy an English cream. I have owned goldens all my life. I am new to Ga and would greatly appreciate any information on reputable breeders.

I can't say for GA. But if you are looking for a reputable breeder of English creams, I have been incredibly happy with my breeder here, in Alaska. Not even remotely close to you, but she does ship and she does have a litter planned for the beginning of the new year. If you are interested this is her website: http://www.alaskasretrievers.com/

As I said, working with her has been a wonderful experience and I plan to go to her for puppy #2 when I have a larger house in a couple years. I recommend her in a heart beat.


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English Creme/Cream can be a loaded term. It is actually a marketing ploy term usually used by unscrupulous breeders. The good news is that there are a few reputable breeders (when compared to the overwhelm number of "greeders")who do have dogs that are English or European style. This means they more closely conform to the UK standard as aposed to the GRCA (US) standard. These reputable breeders of English style dogs may have colors ranging from very light to dark gold. They however do not usually tout the color of their dogs as a selling point since structure, temperament, health and trainability are the focus of their program not the color.

In general, please be very cautious of any breeder using this term. Any breeder using any variation that includes white, platinum, silver, or ultra light is a red flag to steer clear of. Also, anyone who is stating that these dogs are more mellow, have less cancer, or are healthier is either horribly misinformed or misleading you.

Now on to the good stuff. What do you want in your golden? What do you want to do with your golden? Have you read the stickies in the choosing a puppy area? If not please do, it is some great info including a great article on English style goldens.

In your search, remember to verify the clearences on any potential puppies parents. The should have the core four: Eyes done annually, Hips, Elbows, and cardiologist Heart. Hips and Elbows tend to be the easiest to verify online. With English style goldens this can get a little more challenging if dogs are from several foreign countries, then there are going to be different hip/elbow rating systems in place.

If you have your heart set on a very light golden of English or European parentage, here is a site you can start with. English Goldens in North America - Breeders

It seems to me that Onterio is a kind of hub for this style. The Candian standard although it does have a preference for light colored dogs, it does not penalize them like the US standard does. So, quite a few breeders up there are very successful in the show ring, where their US counter parts are not normally competitive.

If you do final a breeder or parents of potential pups, you can post them and the forum can double check your research.

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Alli1, have you had a chance to go to the house and look at the dogs and where they live (etc.) by chance?

I'd make sure you do further research on this breeder, I see evidence of underage breeding and some pedigrees tied to White Dove which do a search on this forum about that kennel. Website speaks of using OFA, but not all dogs are OFA cleared, seems to be a mix of penhip, OFA and BVA. If you're going to say you do something, then do it. I would also want to know how many dogs they actually have, website mentions 5, but K9 data has them owning more, exactly how big is their breeding program?

It's so hard to decipher through breeders sometimes! I'm so thankful for this forum in that sense. Ally: that is not to say that you don't have a gorgeous dog because from looking at the website, they are beautiful.

When you looked on K9 data what did you type in the search for? I tried alaskasretrievers (also with a space) and no results were found.

You need to search by breeder and then again by owner--April Fulker. That was just a quick review, anyone pursuing this breeder needs to make contact with the breeder and address any concerns. I personally, would be pursuing a breeder that I could reasonably go visit to meet the breeder in person and his/her goldens.

Thank you...that really helps! And I totally agree.

If English cream, cream, white ultra light, platinum, silver raise red flags - could some of the experts on this website please advise what is the CORRECT terminology that you would like applied?

I have no clue what to call my puppy anymore just so I will not raise the so called red flags. Frankly she is all of the above. Her coat is white and in the sun or light she shines just like silver and platinum. She is creme and ultra light on her back and her ears.

I did my homework and knew way ahead of time what I was getting - most people have no clue what an English Golden is - go to Petco and ask. Simple as that. I had to convince my DH that our next dog will either be a British Retriever (as I call them) or a Pyrenees. As a full blooded American he was just like you guys, totally reluctant; until he met her. And to be honest none of his previous American Goldens could compare to my Rose Bud and as much as he hates it he has admitted to it many and many times.

Don't get me wrong, the last pure American golden, Trooper, I only spent his last four years with him and I loved him and formed a bond with him to the point that I could not go to the bathroom without him coming with me. I had to be careful how much I moved around so he will not come after me with his poor old legs, had to be careful where and how long I gardened so he will always be in the shade and then back inside.