Shalva, thanks fo catching my typo.
Wish I could go back and edit. Thought I had the "does not" in that sentence. Going back I know I just got typing to quick and the intent of a "not" was there.
So here is how I ment it to read:
The Candian standard although it does not
have a preference for light colored dogs, it does not penalize them like the US standard does.
Thanks for always adding great perspective to conversations when they range into the "English Creme" realm. You are always doing a great job of educating on this topic. Though I know it must be tiresome, you alway offer great advice/information for those who need it when it comes to Golden Retrievers of the English persuasion.
Thanks, I do try to jump in on these threads. I think we all have preferences as to what we like for color or size or coat or whatever and unfortunately our english dogs have gotten to be quite a fad here in the states... The reality is that it is a trend in the UK as well. If we look at American style dogs through the years we see changes in head shape, color, overall type as the style changes... the same is true for the UK dogs and while many of them are cream in color or very light gold now, if we look at the UK dogs through history we see the same changes as we see in the American dogs, coat color, head shape, size etc all changes throughout the years. It is true of any breed for an assortment of reasons.
Personally I am not a fan of cream although I have two cream colored dogs here (they are registered as light gold) I do prefer color and as such I am breeding Connie who is a cream/light gold dog to an English dog who does have quite a bit of color but color is honestly the least of my worries as long as they are in the golden spectrum...
There are many falsehoods about English style dogs (and I use that term loosely because many are from other places in europe but still use the term english style) most of them do go back to UK dogs in the recent pedigree even if they are registered as from Portugal such as my boy is. There are good breeders in Hungary and Romania, Russia and other places in Eastern Europe that are trying to do it right, but there are many that aren't. English style dogs are no different than American Goldens in that there are good breeders and bad breeders and it is up to the puppy person to weed them out. They should be looking for the same things in English dogs that they are in American dogs while recognizing that there are some differences.
1. Hips are scored differently
2. UK breeders and European breeders don't do heart clearances as a general rule so don't expect to find generations of heart clearances. They simply don't have the heart issues that we have here BUT they are considering adding it to required clearances. However, a dog living here in the US, the parents should be heart cleared.
3. Elbows should be done
4. Ichthyosis and all PRA's should be done....
5. Eyes like every other dog
so look for hips, elbows, heart, genetics and eyes for the dogs living in the US... if you are importing then there are differences.
they do get cancer... they don't live any longer... check the lines for longevity... and if you need help ask around. there is nothing wrong with wanting a light colored golden .... it is a preference and we can help you find a good breeder of that style.
What is annoying to me is when folks on this board make general statements about all breeders of English style dogs and when they disregard someones preference for an english style dog as unimportant or vanity.... not all of us are like that ... in the same way as some prefer red, or medium gold or whatever some prefer english style and that should be acknowledged and they should be helped to find what they are looking for... while the myths are dispelled at the same time.