Golden or Sheltie?!?! - Page 2 - Golden Retrievers : Golden Retriever Dog Forums

GoldenRetrieverForum.com is the premier Golden Retriever Dog Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 12:47 PM
Wendi's Avatar
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Somewhere over the Rainbow
Posts: 703
Thanks: 222
Thanked 584 Times in 336 Posts
We have had six Shelties. They are very loyal to their family. We have run the gambit on personality, we got a female when she was 1 1/2 and she was very aloof. One male, he was timid only because when he was puppy, the neighbors German Shepard jumped the fence and broke his leg; he had to have surgery to set it with screws and plates. One female was friendly but protective, another female, OMGosh she was the funniest, sweetest most loving dog to everyone. The two my mom has now are her babies and they act like it...lol They were not all barkers, they were all, except the male and the one female are friendly to strangers. They do have high herding instinct. They are super athletic! Smart, smart, smart! All of them had a "off switch"

I love Shelites and I love goldens...my husband prefers a bigger dog, so....a golden. He would actually rather have a malamute...lol
__________________

Before you speak:THINK; T-Is it True? H-Is it Helpful? I-Is it Inspiring? N-Is it Necessary? K-Is it Kind?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 12:59 PM
Karen519's Avatar
Dog Lover

 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Woodridge, Illinois
Posts: 36,308
Thanks: 38,291
Thanked 11,759 Times in 8,737 Posts
Shelties

Not all Shelties are barkers. I've always loved them. When we get a smaller dog at some point in our lives, it will be a Sheltie.

My Golden Retriever barks alot, if someone walks by our home or backyard.
I'm glad he does-good protection!!
__________________
[IMG]http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii215

Tonka & Tucker

SNOBEAR at the Bridge
Dec. 23, 1999-March 27, 2010



SMOOCH at the Bridge.
Feb. 14, 1999-Dec. 7, 2010

Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 01:45 PM
Sally's Mom's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cumberland, Maine
Posts: 7,607
Thanks: 3,986
Thanked 6,127 Times in 3,179 Posts
I love Shelties. But they are barkers, in fact, when you go to a dog show, you will go past x pens of Shelties, Aussies, and collies who have been "debarked". The most awful noise on the planet. Two of my clients have gone up North with theirs to have the surgery... And the only thing worse than the surgery itself is when the surgery goes bad and obstructs the upper airway... Years ago, a client who had lost their nice cocker called up and said she was going to get a JRT. She has at least ten years on me and was very overweight. I said, "Get a Sheltie." He was a wonderful, beautiful dog, but she never let me forget how much he barked.... Those of you with Shelties or that have had them, how was their longevity and soundness? Many of our patients only make it to ten or so. And my impression is that many have issues with wrist and elbow arthritis. But I judge dogs when they are most stressed(at the vet) and Shelties are generally easy to work on.
__________________
Janice and The Celebration Gang -
"Samantha, George, Tiki, Emily, Mick and Basil" Gone but not forgotten, Sally(Windjammer's Ima Country Girl CDX CGC), Laney(Mandell Marlenes Celebration UD RA CGC), and Cookie(Starseeker's Kissmas Cookie CDX RE CGC).
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 01:52 PM
Megora's Avatar
Kate
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MI
Posts: 15,813
Thanks: 6,523
Thanked 9,311 Times in 5,181 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Altairss View Post
They tend to be more standoffish with people they don't know, they put family first for the most part. Really really socializing them and getting one that is more outgoing is important. It is breed standard that they be more aloof with people they don't know but not shy. They will stand back and observe. However some lines are less aloof then others some can be really really shy, so do your homework with the breeder.
^ THIS!

Having a rough collie, we have the same thing going on.

I can't really speak as far as barking? Our collie barks when necessary. They believe that strangers approaching them, looking at them, strange dogs nearby, or any other variety of perceived threats are reasons to bark. If you are just going to have a dog around the house and not really go out in places or situations where you don't want barking, this won't be such a big deal.

My mom also had a sheltie growing up - this was back when shelties came in bigger sizes... she loves the breed, but that dog snapped quite a lot. So training is a must.
__________________
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 03:13 PM
Altairss's Avatar
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Northwest WA
Posts: 536
Thanks: 625
Thanked 426 Times in 260 Posts
Lets See for age that can vary again by bloodlines. Maddie, was almost 17, her mom was almost 18 Blueboy a Maddie grandson I lost at 10 and half to cancer but his full sister was either 12 or 13. Reva was 14, Jet 13, Bailey was 12, Pudge my rescue passed early at 11 due to heart issue late life. Broker I lost to to complications to a reaction to an antibotics when he was about 12.
In the lines I worked with average age was 12-14 but several went much older, I never had any issues with elbow or wrist arthritis nor did any of the breeders that I worked with, well Maddie started to get regular arthritis but that was when she got around 15.
the lines I worked with had good strong bone and subsistance with a go all day if needed attitude but all mine had strong off switches.
__________________

Sparkles, Boots and Tink
Bridge dogs, Tuffy, Blueboy, Pudge, Shasta, Maddie, Broker, Jet, Baily, Reva and Boots sweet boy we are missing you so
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 03:16 PM
Altairss's Avatar
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Northwest WA
Posts: 536
Thanks: 625
Thanked 426 Times in 260 Posts
least you think the lines I worked with were perfect I reread and it sounds preachy lol but incomplete dentation ie missing teath usually the pre molars and gay tails occured as well as soft coats and non consistant size I saw more then a few big pups those that went outside the standard ever saw a 20 inch sheltie lol
I just figured I would rather work with those faults then some of the others.
__________________

Sparkles, Boots and Tink
Bridge dogs, Tuffy, Blueboy, Pudge, Shasta, Maddie, Broker, Jet, Baily, Reva and Boots sweet boy we are missing you so
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 03:33 PM
Sally's Mom's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Cumberland, Maine
Posts: 7,607
Thanks: 3,986
Thanked 6,127 Times in 3,179 Posts
I have noticed a big variation in size even when both parents were show standard...
__________________
Janice and The Celebration Gang -
"Samantha, George, Tiki, Emily, Mick and Basil" Gone but not forgotten, Sally(Windjammer's Ima Country Girl CDX CGC), Laney(Mandell Marlenes Celebration UD RA CGC), and Cookie(Starseeker's Kissmas Cookie CDX RE CGC).
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 03:47 PM
Altairss's Avatar
Advanced Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Northwest WA
Posts: 536
Thanks: 625
Thanked 426 Times in 260 Posts
Shelties are still a somewhat young breed as far as setting type and when the collie was briefly introduced in order to set type it thru size into the mix. Also some breeders were breeding for a quick growing line that matured early and that seemed to bring size back into the mix even more.
It is for the most part getting better but sometimes when you outcross you get some surprising. I only Bred Reva once to a Canadian Champion he was a nice compact 15 inches. Reva was 14 1/2 her sire was 14 1/2 Maddie her Mom was 16 but that cross brought huge puppies it looked good comformational and on paper but wow the size was a surprise. Its why I almost never breed but prefered to buy lol so I knew where they were going. Big lines have their own size and growth charts so you can figure out early where that pup was going.
__________________

Sparkles, Boots and Tink
Bridge dogs, Tuffy, Blueboy, Pudge, Shasta, Maddie, Broker, Jet, Baily, Reva and Boots sweet boy we are missing you so
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 04:31 PM
OutWest's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: El Dorado County, CA
Posts: 9,885
Thanks: 12,495
Thanked 8,676 Times in 4,854 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dakota's Pal View Post
A few months ago I was 100% certain that a Golden was for me, now I'm reconsidering. I have researched a ton about both breeds, they seem quite different but still for me. If anyone has had a Sheltie please help. I won't be getting a dog for a long time but, best to start early I want to make the right choice. I have met a Sheltie and she was the sweetest thing! And have met Goldens too which just melt my heart! I understand that each dog is different though. I'd get both if I could but... can't. I want the best for the pup and I want to make sure I can provide a good life for them. We have a house and a yard, and another place with acres of land. There is not much of a problem for exercise, lots of parks around, hiking trails. Grooming both breeds takes time, I can do that, again not much of a problem. To me the only differences I see are that Shelties bark a lot more and are smaller. Both are very beautiful!! I would like to hear what ya'll think. Thanks
Well, you ARE asking on a Golden forum, so there should be no surprise that I would say NO to a Sheltie. They are great dogs and lots of fun, but when I watch them at the dog park, they drive me up a wall. In general, most herding breeds drive me up a wall because they are the (unknowing) source of so much trouble in dog parks. They have such a strong desire to herd, and so many other dogs do not like it at all. The other thing is that they are far more energetic than I would want in my home. They really, really need a job to do at all times. I love the fact that my GRs and my spaniel are very lively and play hard off and on, especially outdoors, and then are able to chill out at home.

Anyway, that's my two cents. Those with collies and other herders are probably going to send me hate mail now! LOL.
__________________
Kathleen, mom to one human, age 18, two canines, and a bunch of fish.




Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 12-30-2012, 05:19 PM
K9-Design's Avatar
the party's crashing us
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Gatorcountry
Posts: 3,164
Thanks: 750
Thanked 2,594 Times in 1,310 Posts
I vended at the sheltie national this year. What struck me is, I sat in my vendor booth with a bowl full of dog biscuits for 4 days and NOT ONE DOG came up to me to say hi -- the entire time.
Their owners were equally as outgoing
"Reserved with strangers" is putting it mildly.
I didn't sense that they were hyper or "need to have a job" dogs at all -- much less than goldens who can be busybodys.
Shelties are, however, really adorable, and very smart, and excellent performance dogs. If they acted like golden retrievers, I'd totally have one! I also say that about Shiba Inus and Siberian huskies, and other breeds I'd never actually own!
__________________
--Anney
"Fisher" CH Deauxquest Hard Day's Knight UDT VER RAE MH WCX CCA VCX OS DDHF, Can. CD WC
"Slater" Morninglo Wing-T Your Bird Can Sing CD MH WCX CCA VC
"Bally" Richwood Wing-T Workin' Like A Dog
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:34 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
Golden Retriever Forum .com
PetGuide.com
Basset.net DobermanTalk.com GoldenRetrieverForum.com OurBeagleWorld.com
BoxerForums.com DogForums.com GoPitbull.com PoodleForum.com
BulldogBreeds.com FishForums.com HavaneseForum.com SpoiledMaltese.com
CatForum.com GermanShepherds.com Labradoodle-dogs.net YorkieForum.com
Chihuahua-People.com RetrieverBreeds.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69