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Well then, it must be a great kennel, right?
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I did not take that as a joke... It is called sarcastism which we know you have plenty of!!


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I did not take that as a joke... It is called sarcastism which we know you have plenty of!!
No sarcasm. Jokes on Barley

Seriously I don't see any evidence of this breeder being a puppy mill as someone posted. Yeah it is personal because a friend of mine has a beautiful healthy 15 yer old golden from that breeder.


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No sarcasm. Jokes on Barley

Seriously I don't see any evidence of this breeder being a puppy mill as someone posted. Yeah it is personal because a friend of mine has a beautiful healthy 15 yer old golden from that breeder.
If your friend got a dog from this breeder 15 years ago, a lot of things can change in that length of time. They have an awful lot of dogs available as "trained puppies", litters of goldens and vizsla's ready to go home before and after Christmas and pretty much anyone can join the GRCA. It is not meant to be an exclusive club and once you are a member, all you have to do is renew your membership every year. There are no requirements for being a member.

They do not have information listed about any of the parents-registered names so clearances can be verified.

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As someone new to this search and to the forum I appreciate those who are trying to save heartache down the line. Sarcasm doesn't really help. I can understand why seeing your friends with a dog that is 15 gives evidence that they did something right but I don't see why saying "jokes on the dog" helps anything. You could just simply say, "I understand your concern but on the flip side I do know of someone that has a dog etc, etc...." It was as if you are just baiting to cause up trouble.
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While there are always a few contrarians who will say the grass is blue and the sky is green, there is a ton of great detailed information about finding a responsible breeder on the forum that PointGold posted as a sticky. Make sure, whatever litter you choose, you can verify solid clearances for hip, elbow, heart, and eyes on Orthopedic Foundation for Animals, hopefully for several generations. K9DATA.COM Home Page can also be informative for doing your own research.

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No sarcasm. Jokes on Barley

Seriously I don't see any evidence of this breeder being a puppy mill as someone posted. Yeah it is personal because a friend of mine has a beautiful healthy 15 yer old golden from that breeder.
Interesting that my saying they fake clearances and offering to show you personally doesn't even cause a blip on your radar. You clearly have an agenda and your mind made up, too.

I have an EveningStar dog, too. She is 44 lb. full grown, is dysplastic in both her hips and elbows, and is a fearful, insecure dog, that was not properly socialized at 6 mo. when we rescued her, and had Giardia and parasites when she left that kennel.

Not that I expect that to phase you. I offer it for those who might otherwise be taken in by your advocacy for this puppy mill.
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As someone new to this search and to the forum I appreciate those who are trying to save heartache down the line. Sarcasm doesn't really help. I can understand why seeing your friends with a dog that is 15 gives evidence that they did something right but I don't see why saying "jokes on the dog" helps anything. You could just simply say, "I understand your concern but on the flip side I do know of someone that has a dog etc, etc...." It was as if you are just baiting to cause up trouble.
Yes you are new and welcome. But if you knew the history you would know that my posts are not the only ones that seem to come off as sarcastic. And believe me I would never want ANYONE to go thru heartache such as we did and that is why I am upfront and honest. I don't think it is right to blow off a possible good rep breeder in the op's area because of mine or anyone else's personal experience. That is why I told the op to check them out. The op is correct that there are many rep breeders out there in her area that are not recommended on this site.

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I just visited this Charlemagne Golden Retrievers - Home Page breeder yesterday. The breeding isn't planned until next month so puppies will not be ready until May but I was very impressed with her and her dogs.
Thank you! I checked out Charlemagne website and liked what I saw. Anyone have personal experience or heard anything positive or negative about this breeder?
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