Also try Beckie at Gangway Goldens & Donna @ Hytree Goldens.

I'd steer clear of the breeder you were to meet Saturday!!!


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Also Denise Werner (tophatgoldens.com) and Carol Nolte (crarae.com) are in the Cincinnati area, both reputable breeders who have a lot of English influence in their pedigrees.

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Okay... I'm not touching the English Creme as everyone else has that handled, but be aware that dogs and cats are not always bff's, especially if the cat hasn't been raised with dogs.

If you are planning to bring a companion home for your cat, I suggest another cat. We are cat people in addition to dog people, and it's a fact of life that the cat's unique temperament as well as the first few months of his life does affect how he sees dogs and other animals. Some cats can be absolutely happy being the only animal in your life, especially as they can be fairly territorial.

Our cat was probably born in a home with dogs and spent his first 3 months there before his previous owners abandoned him at the barn I board at. I would not have brought him home had I not already seen he was very good with dogs.

Any other cats on our property or in our home drives him to start spraying inside and outside the house - this despite him being neutered very early.

Our previous cat barely tolerated dogs, as he was a teenager when we brought our first dog home. He kept those dogs in line with an iron claw and much growling.

My oldest sister's cat is the same way to a lesser extent. He was probably in a good home before he went stray and was rescued. He likes other cats, but dogs not so much.

My baby sister's new cat - is fearful of other cats and dogs as she (apartment cat that had been abandoned in the parking lot when the previous owners left) had never been positively exposed to either. She's happiest with just people around but will vanish if any other four legged creatures are in sight.

So in a nutshell - do not approach this with the idea of bringing home a companion for your cat.

As well as puppies being easygoing - they are not. They are only easygoing that first week, and then they get moving. All of the breeders mentioned above will be sure to warn you. Remember that goldens are a sporting breed in addition to being a companion breed. This means that until training and old age set in, these dogs are "busy" and active. And rambunctious.

If you owned your cat when he was young and got to see him doing monkey tail zoomies around the house, climbing the curtains, jumping on the furniture, lunging at you to randomly mouth and claw your legs... golden retrievers are a lot like that. But bigger and heavier.

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Thank you for all the input and especially the list of reputable breeders! It's a much more daunting task finding a puppy than I expected, but it will be worth it to find a little buddy I think we will not make the trip so we don't give in to the cuteness when we get there. So, the search continues. This is a great forum, thanks!

Thank you for listening. Many new members come here asking very similar questions, and when they get the answers they did not want to hear they take it out on the forum.

As for cats and dogs, they are like people, sometimes they like certain ones, sometimes they don't.

I have two cats and two goldens. One cat hates both goldens, when I first got her, I had two GSD's and a Great Pyrenees. She liked one of the GSD's and the Great Pyrenees, but now hates both goldens that came into the house as puppies.

I have another cat that loves one of the goldens ( they are good friends ) and hates the other. Interestingly, she came into the house as a kitten about the same time the golden she hates came into the house as a puppy. You just never know.

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Megora: Our cat has had some month long visits with my husband's family dogs before, so he is not completely new to dogs. They have a Bernese Mountain Dog that our cat gets along great with and they had a golden retriever, who sadly just passed away that kept him more on edge. Berners are lazy bums and their dog goes nose to nose with deer sometimes, a big lover. Their golden retriever had not ever been around a cat though, but still she never did more than chase which I think we would work on training the puppy not to do first thing. Our cat is just like the kittens you described, haha, sprinting up and down the stairs at lightning speed and playing hide and go seek with us. Which includes hiding behind things and then leaping out to scare us like we do to him He's 4 though. He's a LOT like a puppy and very territorial with cats so we're hoping it works out ok. He seems to respect animals we bring in the house, but growls at animals outside. Since my husband's childhood golden retriever passed he really wants another golden to commemorate her. We tried to get the Berner when his family got a new puppy, but they won't let us have her. We're going to try to find the most submissive puppy we can so it will accept our cat as the pack leader he is any other hints are appreciated. I think as long as our cat knows he's my number one, he'll be ok and as long as the dog isn't also dominant.

Be very careful not to mistake fearful for submissive. A fearful pup will be many times the work of a more confident pup in regards to socialization and training! Rely heavily on your breeder to pick the right pup for your situation.

Tips for dogs and cats together:

Baby gates will be your friend. Cats think nothing of jumping over them, but dogs trained them at a young age will rarely challenge them. The gates will keep the dog out of the litter box and give the cat a space to get away from the dog. You can feed the cat behind the gate or maybe on a high counter that the dog won't be able to reach when full grown (over estimate what the dog will be able to reach by about double!). Make changes now that the cat is used to them before the puppy comes home. You don't want to do anything to change a litter box situation when the cat is under stress.

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One of the questions you can ask while breeder shopping is if the puppies have been socialized with cats. That would be a big plus.

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When we brought our puppy home, our cat would hide, and not eat for days. It took about 2 weeks before she would stay in the same room with the puppy for more than a few seconds. Now, the cat still does not like Bella, who would like nothing more than to be friends with the cat.


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My two cats hated other cats, but always liked the dogs. As suggested, we used gates and taught the pups not to chase the cats. When one of my cats died, her son, Runtman would curl up on Laney's bed with her. I am allergic so no longer own cats, but all of mine except the pup, Gabby, treat the hospital cat with respect. Actually, all Basil has to do is see the cat and she pees herself...she was raised with cats before she came back to me...

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