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English Creme Golden Breeder Questions

Is anyone here familiar with this Minnesota breeder?

MN ENGLISH GOLDEN

I'm new to this forum, and Golden Retrievers in general. I spoke with her on the phone, and everything seems legit, but was wondering if anyone here has experience dealing with this breeder, or knows someone who has.

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I would find a different breeder. It looks like they do hips and elbows on some of their dogs, but what about eyes and hearts? Also, it doesn't look like they show in any kind of venue.
The use 'English creme' as a marketing ploy... bad sign.

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Is anyone here familiar with this Minnesota breeder?

MN ENGLISH GOLDEN

I'm new to this forum, and Golden Retrievers in general. I spoke with her on the phone, and everything seems legit, but was wondering if anyone here has experience dealing with this breeder, or knows someone who has.

Thanks.
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Swampcollie...

Thanks for your input, but you didn't give any reasons. I see you're from MN. Are you familiar with this breeder, or do you have other reasons? Can you recommend any breeders in the area?

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Reputable fanciers of the English style do not market their dogs as "cremes". They are referring to dogs as "Full English" but they are not English imports--instead they appear to be from Eastern Europe and maybe Scandinavia from what I can tell of the limited names posted.

Here is a better place to start looking if you are interested in the English style. English Goldens in North America - Litters - Breeders - Stud Dogs It also has a good explanation of what to look for in a good breeder and some of the warning signs that point to a "white golden" pusher.

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Sterregold...

That's a very useful resource. Thanks.
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I have to say that I find their "guarantee" to be a bit of a sham as it requires the return of the original puppy. Of the breeders I know with guarantees, no one requires the return of the original puppy. The only reason I can think of to require the return of the puppy, is because the breeder knows that most people will not do that, as they will become attached to the puppy.

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Beware with the "English Cream" come on. These dogs originate in Eastern Europe and come with a whole lot of baggage. The white color is a genetic variant. Its no indication the dog originated in England or Scotland. There is a lot of hype associated with this dog, and the price may reflect this. Some breeders may take advantage of this and you may be blinded to underlying disease. English Creams do not have genetic preponderance to cancer, hips and eyes more than any other retriever.

You bring a Golden into your life not because of the color, but because of the breed.


I have not heard anything bad about this breeder, but just going through the web site sends up red flags.

There are some " English Cream " breeders I would avoid like the plague. They are documented on this forum and others.

We got an English Cream some years ago. It was a disaster.

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Thanks for all of your responses. I don't have a color requirement, but ran across the website and was stricken by the beauty of the dogs. I was not aware of potential problems with these dogs or the breeders. For all I know, they may be legit, but after further research, and from the advice I've received here, my search continues. I can't believe how difficult it is to find a breeder that meets all of the requirements listed in some of the articles I've read.

If anyone can recommend a good breeder in my area, I would appreciate it....Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, etc. I live in Minnesota but am willing to travel a bit if necessary.
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