I placed a deposit down on a litter of puppies from Paradise Golden Retrievers in Tampa, FL. I've had correspondence with the breeders and she seems wonderful and knowledgable. But after readind the "Englsh Golden" thread about finding an English Golden Breeder in FL, I am getting VERY nervous! She has the sire listed as an English Cream Golden. I also did an OFA search for him and found nothing.

Paradise Golden Retrievers Here is the site. Will you look at it and tell me what you think??

I've emailed her just a moment ago and am awaiting a response. In the mean time, I need advice and help! Have I gone and picked myself a bad breeder? She is asking 1,400 per pup which I am willing to pay but not for anything but the best! I at least want a hips/elbow clearance, if not thyroid and heart, etc....

AND, if anyone knows of a breeder in South Florida you would recommend, please let me know! I am so anxious now...

This site only mentions hips and elbows, no cardiac or eye clearances. That alone makes me cringe, but worse, I can't find the dogs that they claim as having hips/elbows done in the OFA database. Unless they are not posting their names as registered on their site...

All in all I'd say run. For that price you cando FAR far better.

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Ohhhhh I was afraid of that.

Anyone heard of Golden Gael ? Litter Page

I hope I can get my deposit back. What should I say? The truth...and then ask for my money back? Or make up a better story to ensure my refund??

Yikes! if I don't get this money back it will be a long time before I can afford a pup =(

I would truly like a puppy from all three of these this Florida breeders.

KaraGold Goldens
Karen & Pat Brady
Brandon, FL USA 33509-2043
Karagold@aol.com
KaraGold Golden Retrievers - Florida

Saffire Goldens
Sheree Melhuish & Haley Whitcomb
Bradenton, FL USA 34212
GottaBgold@aol.com
www.SaffireGoldens.com
941-747-8710

http://www.cinnameggoldens.com/

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I just plugged in several of their dogs names using different variations and I'm sorry but they are not showing as being in the OFA database. Even if they were, with just hips or hips and elbows, they are not doing cardiac or eye clearances. Both are critical.

And frankly, the animals shown on their site appear to be of a marginal quality and $1400.00 is high.

I won't even address the "English Creme" bit.

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A forum member has a gorgeous golden from here:
Lakewood Golden Retrievers

Forum member k9design is a great resource.

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Be honest. Tell them that you cannot in good conscience buy a dog whose ancestry is lacking any of the 4 important clearances. And tell them you are concerned that the dogs are not showing up in the OFA data base.

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I would also add this - print out their web pages. No where does it say that a deposit is non-refundable. I would PRINT them to have IN HAND in case they challenge it, or, add the caveat later.

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Did you sign any kind of a contract binding you with the deposit? I would read that and see if there are any no-return clauses.

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No I did not sign anything, it was all done electronically (I'm not in the states). It does say that the deposit is refundable on her website. Ugh, I do not need this headache.

Thank you for all the help and suggestions so far.