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Old 02-16-2010, 09:04 PM
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We just completed Barkley's second chemotherapy session and I've got more questions than ever. I hope some of you veterans will share your dogs' experiences and help me answer some questions. Barkley is showing absolutely no signs he has had chemotherapy. Today he has been very hungry, eating, begging, barking for food. He's been very active watching the world from his perch on top of the stairs. He's insisted on walking longer than we want him to walk, gets upset if we start back home too soon. Here are my questions:

1. Did your dogs seem to get an increase in energy after chemotherapy? I always thought they would be more lethargic after a session.

2. If your dog had surgery or testing beforehand, requiring surgery, did their fur grow back in the shaved areas during the chemo sessions? We read the fur won't grow back, but we've seeing new growth in Barkley's fur.

3. Were you asked to not feed your dog before the chemo session?

4. Did your oncologist prescribe oral B vitamins during the chemo to help keep the red blood cell counts up?

Thanks! We are cautiously optimistic and hoping/praying Barkley contnues to feel so good after the next 3 chemotherapy treatments.
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1. Did not notice an increase in energy, especially since her second treatment was a horrible response to that drug. Megs is very much a "do it myself" kind of girl though and at times I worried that she was pushing herself too hard.

2. Yes, her fur grew back in shaved areas. Maybe slower during chemo, hard to say.

3. We did not feed the morning of a chemo. I still don't feed the morning she goes in for checkups. Just in case.

4. No vitamins given here.

Glad Barkley so doing so well. Don't go looking for trouble! Just enjoy.
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1. Did not notice an increase in energy, especially since her second treatment was a horrible response to that drug. Megs is very much a "do it myself" kind of girl though and at times I worried that she was pushing herself too hard.

2. Yes, her fur grew back in shaved areas. Maybe slower during chemo, hard to say.

3. We did not feed the morning of a chemo. I still don't feed the morning she goes in for checkups. Just in case.

4. No vitamins given here.

Glad Barkley so doing so well. Don't go looking for trouble! Just enjoy.
Thanks! I'm just so pleasantly surprised by Barkley's non-reaction to the chemotherapy. I'm doing a happy dance internally. I hope this continues. I didn't make his dinner fast enough yesterday and he barked at me like crazy. I was smiling the whole time he was barking.
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Hi Dallas Gold - so happy to hear Barkley is doing so well!! Here is the experience we had with Tasha

1. Tasha did not have an increase in energy. The low point of her energy was about a week after chemo.

2. Tasha's growth was on her lower lip so a portion of her lip was removed and did not really require her to have her fur shaved.

3. Tasha's chemo was administered orally and we did it at home so we did feed her as usual.

4. No vitamins were given. She did get antibiotics a week after chemo after blood work.

I hope Barkley continues to do well. You are all in our prayers.
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Just a thought...Barkley's red counts were quite low before and right after the surgery, weren't they? Maybe what you're seeing is the effect of him feeling better now that the huge, swollen, blood filled spleen is gone! Now that his hematocrit is back to normal, he probably feels a whole lot better, too.
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When our Raider went through chemo, (eight sessions) we never noticed a thing different with him! We got to the point where we wondered if he really had cancer- and he had a very bad kind; Blastolymphoma. (which I'm sure I just spelled wrong) and no, we did not feed him prior to his session, but you better believe that dog was ready to eat afterwards! We always drove him through McDonalds after.

He never lost his hair or energy- it was kind of bizarre. No vitamins either. Here's the best part of his story- The Dr's gave him 6-18 months before they expected to see some sort of relapse, and my baby lived another six years and eventually died of heart failure. There are a lot of miracles out there! Best to you and Barkley!
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Just a thought...Barkley's red counts were quite low before and right after the surgery, weren't they? Maybe what you're seeing is the effect of him feeling better now that the huge, swollen, blood filled spleen is gone! Now that his hematocrit is back to normal, he probably feels a whole lot better, too.
This makes perfect sense to me. The vet mentioned Monday that his hct went up 2 more points as well.

They suggested I give him an oral b-vitamin with iron supplement called Pet Tinic. I guess that stuff is working. It tastes pretty good to him as well because he laps it up.
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When our Raider went through chemo, (eight sessions) we never noticed a thing different with him! We got to the point where we wondered if he really had cancer- and he had a very bad kind; Blastolymphoma. (which I'm sure I just spelled wrong) and no, we did not feed him prior to his session, but you better believe that dog was ready to eat afterwards! We always drove him through McDonalds after.

He never lost his hair or energy- it was kind of bizarre. No vitamins either. Here's the best part of his story- The Dr's gave him 6-18 months before they expected to see some sort of relapse, and my baby lived another six years and eventually died of heart failure. There are a lot of miracles out there! Best to you and Barkley!

I love hearing stories of dogs like your Raider that outlive the expectations and are miracle dogs.

We know Barkley has the cancer but we were wondering if they were giving him something besides the chemo since he hasn't reacted yet. I hope he continues to tolerate it well.
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Hair/fur - the chemo doesn't make the hair/fur stop growing. Remember that the hair/fur you see is dead, the live part is below the skin in the follicle. The live part of the hair is weakened by the dose of chemo and as it grows out, it is more likely to break off. If the chemo is close enough together, the hair may break off at the scalp.

The increased energy is probably due to the increased RBCs and hemoglobin carrying more oxygen to the body.

Everybody tolerates chemo differently, so whether to eat before chemo or not is very individual. Chemo works on the fastest growing cells, which includes cancer cells in addition to the bone marrow, lining of the digestive track and hair/fur all over the body.

Unless you are getting methotrexate, a mutlivitamin is usually encouraged. Extra iron to help build the RBCs is common. It is hard to get all of the nutrients needed while on chemo.

It sounds like Barkley is doing well on the chemo. Fingers crossed for it to continue.
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